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I sorta just say what he wants to hear. Also because what's the point if I just want him out anyway. Also, I did try awhile ago, but at this point in the game I'm not going to try and form new relationships. Johnny tells Liv he won't repeat any names she says at all. Liv says, you wouldn't put Will up, because Johnny is just starting to form that again.

Liv adds that she doesn't know if Johnny would put Maddy or Paras up. Johnny says Paras is off because he made that deal. (in the last hoh comp). How he won't put Maddy up because of the risk that you guys would vote Maddy out. And keep Kaela cause he can see them doing that. Liv says right.

Liv says not that they would intentionally vote Maddy out, but that it would be tempting to do. Johnny says I know. Johnny says then he would leave Daela in the game. So what, it comes to you or Ali to insure that Kaela goes home. Liv says, but does that ensure it, that's what makes me nervous. Johnny says, I mean, it's not going to be you, I'm not touching you. You kinda hinted to me that Ali would put me up in a triple, so why am I protecting her. Liv says right, so you can't say that. (to not tell Ali) Johnny says he won't.

Liv says that she was going to say to him yesterday, there's another thing because you are the only person now that I can vent and complain to besides the DR, how she talked to Paras yesterday feeling Paras out about a deal, and how Paras said she feels like she can beat Ali and not Liv, which made her nervous, so she asked Ali if it was Liv and Paras in the final 3, who would she take to final 2. Ali told Liv, well you never know in the moment, but I would be more tempted to take you. Liv said she got a vibe that Ali would take her. Liv says Ali takes credit for everything. Liv says she would want 3 strong people at the end so it would be an equal playing field.

Johnny thinks Paras would keep Liv in the triple and that Will would keep Ali. Liv says she tried before to talk game to Will, but it was like circle talk. You don't get very deep. So she has pretty much given up talking game to Will. Johnny tells Liv that she needs to keep him in the triple for her game. Liv says of course, she does not want to be in the house with a bunch of floaters. Liv tells Johnny that Ali will try to keep Kaela.

They talk more of the triple and different scenarios.

(Good night all)

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5:55 PM ET	Liv and Johnny in the catacomb. Johnny asks Liv where she stands with Derek. That Derek said he doesn't talk game with Liv, he more so does with Ali. Liv says she doesn't really only because I don't know if I totally trust him, so I give him very little... -MyBestBud (Long Post, Read More...) I sorta just say what he wants to hear. Also because what's the point if I just want him out anyway. Also, I did try awhile ago, but at this point in the game I'm not going to try and form new relationships. Johnny tells Liv he won't repeat any names she says at all. Liv says, you wouldn't put Will up, because Johnny is just starting to form that again. Liv adds that she doesn't know if Johnny would put Maddy or Paras up. Johnny says Paras is off because he made that deal. (in the last hoh comp). How he won't put Maddy up because of the risk that you guys would vote Maddy out. And keep Kaela cause he can see them doing that. Liv says right. Liv says not that they would intentionally vote Maddy out, but that it would be tempting to do. Johnny says I know. Johnny says then he would leave Daela in the game. So what, it comes to you or Ali to insure that Kaela goes home. Liv says, but does that ensure it, that's what makes me nervous. Johnny says, I mean, it's not going to be you, I'm not touching you. You kinda hinted to me that Ali would put me up in a triple, so why am I protecting her. Liv says right, so you can't say that. (to not tell Ali) Johnny says he won't. Liv says that she was going to say to him yesterday, there's another thing because you are the only person now that I can vent and complain to besides the DR, how she talked to Paras yesterday feeling Paras out about a deal, and how Paras said she feels like she can beat Ali and not Liv, which made her nervous, so she asked Ali if it was Liv and Paras in the final 3, who would she take to final 2. Ali told Liv, well you never know in the moment, but I would be more tempted to take you. Liv said she got a vibe that Ali would take her. Liv says Ali takes credit for everything. Liv says she would want 3 strong people at the end so it would be an equal playing field. Johnny thinks Paras would keep Liv in the triple and that Will would keep Ali. Liv says she tried before to talk game to Will, but it was like circle talk. You don't get very deep. So she has pretty much given up talking game to Will. Johnny tells Liv that she needs to keep him in the triple for her game. Liv says of course, she does not want to be in the house with a bunch of floaters. Liv tells Johnny that Ali will try to keep Kaela. They talk more of the triple and different scenarios. (Good night all)
5:10 PM ET	Maddy and Paras in the white room. Paras tells Maddy that she is studying because yesterday was an eye opener. Maddy says what are we going to do. Paras says she thinks it's not a bad idea to try to get Johnny to put up Liv. Paras thinks by doing... -MyBestBud (Long Post, Read More...) that, one of two things are going to happen. Either he does put up Liv, and he shows loyalty to us, which could change our decision of whether we keep Kaela, or he doesn't and makes it extremely easy to go behind his back. Maddy said that she was thinking of that this morning. Maddy says it's two good points, and if she goes to him and says, I'm a little bit suspicious blah, blah, but in a friendly way, not like you have to do it, not be too harsh, and she understands that Johnny is receptive to certain conversations. So it will come across as me putting my foot down, but in a, I want to be with you way. Maddy says she thinks she can do that, and if Johnny questions Paras about it, you can say, well we saved you. Maddy says that comes out better from Paras then for herself. Paras says okay. Maddy says she thinks Johnny sees Paras like logically and stuff, and Paras makes the most sense, he owes you the most trustworthiness right now. Cause he's done things to Will and herself but not Paras. Maddy says they then have a decision to make between Liv and Kaela. That it will give them a better look at Johnny before they make a decision, which is important. Paras asks if he doesn't and puts up Ali? Maddy says we got to vote her out. Paras says the only thing that might happen then, is, we don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot by having Johnny and Liv as a duo, Kaela and Derek. (as a duo). They talk about if they screw Johnny and Liv wins the triple, then it becomes Liv/Johnny. They talk about the triple. Paras says there has been 2 times that Will has strong armed her to do what Will wanted. So if this is the decision that you and I want to do, and Will goes against it, then Will can be on the wrong side this time. Paras says if she chooses to keep Kaela, then there is no going back on that. Maddy says they won't be able to tell anyone. We will have to lie. They talk more of the triple, what the comp will be, and how to get Johnny to put up Liv.
4:25 PM ET	Feed 1/2 - Showed the HG's sunning all day. -MyBestBud
4:19 PM ET	4:17 in the house. Maddy and Will in kitchen talking about when they were kids. Johnny and I think Paras outside sleeping in the sun. -MyBestBud
11:49 AM ET	Earlier this morning, Johnny and Will outside. Johnny said, oh man, I don't want to miss out on next week. Will said, next week, are you saying if you go home. Johnny said ya. Will said, I got faith. Johnny said, wouldn't it be hilarious if Derek used the... -MyBestBud (Long Post, Read More...) veto on Kaela. That Derek was convinced that it was a great idea. There's no way he would ever do that, but like, if he thought the entire house was his buddy and they would vote to keep him over anyone, that you guys were all tricking me or something. That you guys don't like Kaela. Johnny said, nah, that won't work. Johnny laughs and said, he doesn't like her enough to do it. Liv walks outside.

11:35 AM ET	Kaela, Maddy, Johnny, Will and Liv, are sunbathing outside. Paras is cleaning the kitchen. -MyBestBud
10:25 AM ET	Previously, Paras and Liv in the catacomb. Liv offers deal to Paras for safety in the triple. Liv told Paras that she has always had Paras's back in the game. She said with the whole sht storm that happened upstairs (the meeting) that she was one of the.... -MyBestBud (Long Post, Read More...)* the only person on this side that actually said, Paras I think is telling the truth. The reason I bring this up is because I have to set myself up for the game. Paras said yup. Liv continues, and the triple is coming up and we talked a little bit about it, and I was thinking I don't, as much as I want to be loyal to Ali and I will as much as I can, I am not going to let that be my detriment in this game. And I don't want to leave because of it. Paras said, yes. Liv tells Paras, so if Ali or I are sitting up there, and if it's Johnny or Kaela sitting next to us, I'm making a deal if you save me and if it's reversed and you are sitting up there instead, I will save you. If you are on the block, Ali and I can save you. Paras said she feels that Liv has her back more than Ali does. Moving forward I feel that I can work with you in this game. Liv said she doesn't see Ali and herself both making it to top 3. Paras said, oh ya, I don't see me and Will, like me and Maddy making it. Liv tells Paras if Ali is out of the game, Liv will take her to the final 2. Paras feels she would be a decent option to take to final 2, because she hasn't done enough in the game. That Liv would have a good chance to win against Paras. Liv says it does not have to be a vice versus thing. Liv tells Paras to just think about it for the triple, one step at a time. Liv tells Paras that Ali may propose this to her as well and it's okay, and it will be double safety. But when it comes down to it, Paras will still have to make a choice. Paras said, ya I know. Paras is worried that where Johnny is good with her side and Ali/Liv, will he just sail on by in the triple. Liv said she thinks everyone is planning on touching him. Paras says its a good deal.
9:31 AM ET	House guests are up and about getting ready for the day. -MyBestBud
8:45 AM ET	Lights have come on in the house but everyone is still in bed. -susanr342
1:13 AM ET	Feeds back! Derek won POV -NorthBayCJ
12:19 AM ET	Feeds still down for POV. Just over 4 hours now. -NorthBayCJ
9:02 PM ET	Sorry liv is hosting and Ali playing -scoby61
8:39 PM ET	Feeds down appox 8:00pm et for veto comp. Ali hosting everybody else playing except Will -scoby61
5:35 PM ET	Will and Paras were in the red room. Will says I really, really, really need a fckin cigarette. Will asks where is everyone else at. Paras tells him. Will asks if Daela has been trying to be nice to her today. Paras says last night Kaela said sorry...Paras said, cool, don't care. Will says ya, it doesn't change the fact that how much they trashed her. Paras says ya, they blew my entire game up and added a few big lies in there. Will says ya. Para says just in an attempt for me to go up. And I will not forget. Will says, but you know what, Kaela's a dumb ss cause she got players choice and she picked Ali. So that gives Derek a better chance to win. And if Derek wins and takes himself down, who's going home, Kaela. Paras says ya, idiot. Paras says she thinks that Kaela thinks that if it was between her and Derek, that she would be going home. She thinks that people personally don't like her enough to send her home, over strategic reasons, which is not the case. Will asks, she thinks people are not going to send her home? Paras answers, she thinks people would send her home over Derek. If it was just the two of them. Which is not the case. If you want to keep the noms the same, that is good for her. But I don't think she sees that. Paras leaves the room. -MyBestBud
5:12 PM ET	Johnny and Liv were in the pantry eating chocolate chip cookies. Liv says let me say something serious. Johnny said what. Liv says, I need to find a way to get past the triple, of being taken down if she is next to Ali. Liv says she thinks she has...to strike a deal with Paras. And convince her to put up Maddy, I don't even know, but I need to figure it out. The only way is if I win. Johnny says he feels like Liv is going to put him up. Liv says I swear on my fcking life I am not putting you up. I swear on my mom's life. I can't say about Ali. Johnny says that's why he feels like Ali will. Liv says I only need two people to vote you to stay. That's it. Worse case scenario, you and I are both up there. She laughs. Fcking hell. Johnny tells Liv that he is voting to keep her over anyone in the house. Liv says, okay I will do the same. Liv says she does not want to be in the final 2 with Ali, because they have played similar games. Johnny says he will take her word on it. Liv interjects with, what else can you do. Liv says she doesn't know what to do, the only thing she can do is survive. They both laugh. Liv says she will put up Will, Maddy and Paras. Johnny is bummed out that he cannot play in the hoh. They grab snacks and leave the pantry. -MyBestBud
4:43 PM ET	Ali and Derek were in the bathroom. Ali said Will was not having a good day today. Derek says he can't kick himself for losing, he can only do his best, that there is some luck involved with it. Ali says totally. Derek says moves that you wish you made and...you didn't and one's that you regret making, you know, but I am going to try not regretting. I got this far from making the moves he made and it is what it is. As much as I do want to be here, and win, I enjoyed being here so much more when there was 11 or 12 people. Ali says totally. Derek says, and like with Merron and V gone, it's not much like a big brother house. Ali says absolutely, now it's like pushing through for the win. And even the one's who are here, you love them but, half the time you don't and you're done talking about everything. Derek said at this point, there is no alliances to be made, deals to cut, that kind of stuff. Ali says ya, there is not really much game talk going on. She says she hasn't said a thing of game except to Derek. Derek says there is still a lot of game left but it's just so much Big Brother that I lost the kind of luste. (They talk along that vein for a bit.) -MyBestBud
11:06 AM ET	Paras, Maddy & Ali chosen to play in veto. -ntua
10:41 AM ET	Feeds are down. (Veto players pick?) -MyBestBud
10:37 AM ET	Ali and Liv in the red room. Liv says she wants to win a veto so she can make a speech. She then says that she thinks (Daela) thinks Ali/Liv are scared of them. I guarantee you that they have conversations where they say like, Liv and Ali wouldn't do...anything because they are too scared. Ali says ha ha ha. Liv replies, no I guarantee it. Can't you see it coming out of their mouths. Ali is getting dressed under the sheets. They talk about Ali's bra. -MyBestBud
10:23 AM ET	Earlier, Derek and Ali at kitchen counter. Derek said something about going home. Ali says I think that he (Johnny) assumes that if one of us aren't a replacement nominee, there is a potential of both of you staying. And I think that freaks him out...Derek says ya. But I mean we can still try, if one of us pulls ourselves off. He is mentioning that he wants to put one of you guys up. Ali says oh ya. Derek says but we have to win the veto first. We have to wait to see what really happens. Derek says because you do never know. You can never really guarantee like, (he says something about there could be a twist.) Ali said that would be really cool. Ali feels like Canada could have another trick up their sleeve. Maddy comes in the kitchen area. They talk about Canada might have a twist that was never done before. Game talk stops. -MyBestBud
10:05 AM ET	Earlier this morning, Johnny in bed in the HOH, Liv sitting on the bed talking about visiting this summer. Johnny groans and says he is so stressed and tired thinking about the triple. Liv says there are so many variables. Johnny says it's so unfair..Like not unfair but...(he does not finish the sentence.) Liv tells Johnny that he is a big player and that is who gets taken out on triples, the big players. Johnny says I know but... Liv says it an opportunity to get 2 out. Johnny says he has very little to work with everyone. Liv says ya. At that point it's just go, go, go. And like I said, there are so many variables. There are people who I don't think would put you up. So, and I think you will have a chance to play in the veto. Liv says, you know. Johnny replies, ya. Liv tells Johnny not to worry about something you can't change. Johnny says I'm glad you are coming. (visiting) Talk to you later. Liv leaves. -MyBestBud
9:44 AM ET	Feed 3/4 - Has Kaela, Liv and Paras in bathroom getting ready for the day. -MyBestBud
9:43 AM ET	Feed 1/2 - Maddy and Derek at the kitchen counter talking about snow and weather in their area. -MyBestBud
8:23 PM ET	Paras now only HG not to be OTB yet -scoby61
8:20 PM ET	Feeds back- Johnny nomed kaela and derek -scoby61

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